On this day, 12 July 1948, in Radom, Bolesław Papiewski [?], Investigating Judge of the District Court in Radom with headquarters in Radom, with the participation of trainee reporter [illegible], interviewed the person named below as a sworn witness. Having been advised of the criminal liability for making false declarations, of the wording of Article 254 of the Code of Criminal Procedure, and of the significance of the oath, the judge swore in the witness, whereupon the witness testified as follows:
Name and surname | Regina Mandelman née Grinawajg |
Age | 25 |
Parents’ names | NN and Chana née Goldsztajn |
Place of residence | Radom, 15 Witolda Street |
Occupation | seamstress |
Criminal record | none |
Relationship to the parties | none |
In August 1942, I saw the accused Herbert Böttcher, accompanied by Blum and Sobipers [?], in the ghetto in the borough of Glinice in Radom. I heard how during one of these inspections, having entered the ghetto and stopped at the Jewish command building, Böttcher said of the Jews: “These dogs are still alive”. After the liquidation of the Glinice ghetto, all the young people, including me, were taken to the large ghetto at Wałowa Street, where I often saw the accused Böttcher walking around the ghetto, escorted by Blum and Sobipers [?].
I did not see Böttcher shoot people or take property himself; however, he was the commander of the SS and Police in the former district of Radom, therefore, he was too highly placed to do it himself. In the ghetto, it was widely known – and the leader of the Jewish command, Sytner, told us – that the deportations, liquidation of the ghetto, and killings all happened on Böttcher’s orders.
The report was read out.